Herding Code: Herding Code 71: James Avery and Rob Conery on NoSQL and a bunch of other stuff

Herding Code

James and Rob invade this week’s show to discuss NoSQL, the ASP.NET MVC vs WebForms debate, TekPub and all kinds of other stuff. Object Databases and NoSQL, ORM are so last year James challenges the idea that all data must reside in a relational databases for everything Rob won’t go to the bar in.

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James and Rob invade this week’s show to discuss NoSQL, the ASP.NET MVC vs WebForms debate, TekPub and all kinds of other stuff.

  • Object Databases and NoSQL, ORM are so last year
  • James challenges the idea that all data must reside in a relational databases for everything
  • Rob won’t go to the bar in an 18-wheeler. 
  • Graph databases, Object Databases, Document Databases
  • Doesn’t an ORM abstract the database away already so what are we saving?
  • James pimps TekPub
  • Rob talks it bit about DDD and how we marry relational tables and object-oriented system.
  • Rob talks about Code Scabs..
  • K Scott fails to see how the choice of a UI pattern is influenced by the type of database you are using.
  • Jon asks about maintainability and supportability issues and what’s your boss going to think about object and document databases. James gives examples on why non-relational solutions are easy to maintain and support.  Rob speaks of ramp up time, scalability and performance like he’s given the speech 1000 times before.
  • The guys crap on MSDN.and then VB.. and then WebForms.
  • K Scott prophesizes on mvc, webforms, silverlight and sharepoint use inside and outside the firewall.  Scott K, James and Rob offer their opinions.and then Jon gets his chance until the Page Lifecycle crashes down on him.  Kevin?
  • James explains how object databases work.
  • The guys share normalized database nightmares
  • Kevin asks about versioning in an object database and serialization/deserialization.
  • Object databases will be more popular than document databases.
  • Rob addresses the idea that he’s condescending and rude.  The guys talk about MVC vs WebForms, VB vs C#, ORMs vs Stored Procedures, ALT.NET, opinions, Jets and Sharks.
  • Rob and James pimps TekPub again.
  • K Scott kicks off a 1-question lightning round ever.
  • Rob talks about TekPub’s technology stack (asked by @elijahmanor) and elaborates about video options.
  • James pimps DotNetKicks.

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Herding Code 71: James Avery and Rob Conery on NoSQL and a bunch of other stuff

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Show notes compiled by Ben Griswold. Thanks!

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